WORK IN PROGRESS
Hereunder are listed the actions to be put in place to raise an alert on a route, a region or an area under prohibition of practice, temporarily or not, seasonal or not, for and exclusive practice or not.
Object
Actions to be realized as soon as the moderation is aware of the illegality of the practice on a region or route. The action has to be performed in a reasonnable timeline of 3 months. The principle of "a posteriori" moderation after reporting or discovery prevails in all cases.
Preamble : risks linked to an illegal practice
Three main prohibition types
1. Practice prohibition for environment protection matter
Number of cases is growing, being mainly for biological environment protection, but can also cover some cultural or hisotircal aspects such as in the "Vallée des Merveilles" in the Mercantour. It can also be some biotop bylaw, decrees (such as in a Natural Reserve), or more informal agreements between locals (birds protectors or climber for example).
In cas of statement by a sworn person, a fine until the 4th grade is possible (maximum of 750€).
2. Access prohibition for private property matters
These cases are less frequent in France, but remain existing abroad.
As it deals with the interaction between two persons, may they be physical or moral, the physical person or moral considering she's sufferinh harm, (often the owner !) can file a complaint.
3. Access prohibition for people protection
As it deals with the access of environments presenting a risk for the user, a prefectural or municipal decree will limit the access for people protection matters.
In cas of statement by a sworn person, a complaint can be filed with effect only if the prosecutor does not classify it "sithout follow-up". The sanction is up to the judge's appreciation. Practically, it will often be a rules reminder.
Risks for the user
- Fine, complaint, rules reminder depending on the situations
- According to the insurance contract, eventual rescues costs could not be supported. It's recommanded to carefully read the contract.
- In theory, public authority can sue the user even if there was no inding of flagrante delicto, for example by reading an outing report or dénunciation. Nevertheless, in order not to be considered as slanderous, proofs will be required.
Risks for C2C
As long as it is not a crime or an offense, C2C has no obligation of deletion or denunciation. incitation
incitation
Choices regarding outings
Outings will not be moderated on the prohibition criteria, except apology of practice in an illegal area. The contributor can neverthless ask forthe deletion of his outing.
It's better to inform instead of hide the existency of illegal pratices, each one is judge of its pratice and the exposition to medias he wishes.
In the topoguide
On demand verifications
A moderator will verify himself or by delegation the veracity of a reporting for practice prohibition in order to prepare the alert banner or the information in the impacted documents.
Informations to provide
- Official source of the information : Source officielle de l’information : bylaw, decree, law or publication if it is a reporting for voluntary application1.
- Dates to provide :
- Definitive prohibition = starting date for the prohibition (to inform an outing before the prohibition is not concerned),
- Temporary prohibitione = starting date + forecasted end date,
- Temporary repetitive prohibition = starting date of establishment + starting and ending dates of the period.
- Appropriated contact for more information.
Moreover, each encouragement not to respect the prohibition will be deleted from the collaborative documents.
Alert banners
Examples
- Definitive prohibition of going though a route due to prefectoral bylaw Cheville Nostalgique au Pieu de Bémont :
BE CAREFUL : climbing prohibited on this site : the equipment of the 1sts pitches of these 2 routes have been removed by the FFMEE on request of LPO Isère (Bird Protection) due to nesting of the Grand-Duc. A sign has been placed at the beginning of the route.
Sources :
- mail Gilles Rocher President of the "clibming natural sites" commission of the CD38 FFME (07/2016)0
- http://www.camptocamp.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=2199073#p2199073
- Access prohibition to the la Combe de l'If en Chartreuse :
The If valley is an integral biological reserve and thus its access is forbidden. Source
- Temporary prohibition for nesting by municipal bylaw at the Pilier du Saut du Gier :
Climbing prohibition from Feb 15 to July 1st included due to a municipal bylaw of the city of la Valla-en-Gier for the protection of a couple of pilgrims falcons in the Saut-Du-Gier site. The bylaw 2019-011 dated from 22/02/2019 is available on this link (pdf).
- Temporary prohibition of practice for new de pratique pour renegotiation of agreement on the city of Fontaine (38) - The Vouillants/Pierre Béghin sites :
The access and the practice of climbing on the sites Pierre Béghin, Coup de Sabre and Ferrières (DJ Face) are temporarily prohibited since the 26/02/2019. The municipality of Fontaine reports that this bylaw is temporary : the city is working with its legal unit in order to re-establish the conditions of use of the concerned sites. Thank you for respecting this temporary prohibition in order not to disrupt the CT38 of FFME who is working with the city of Fontaine on the reopening of concerned sites. The bylaw is available under this link.
- Definitive prohibition under a ministerial decree of ice climbing practice Ice Cream au Puy de Sancy :
Alpinism is not authorized since the creation of the Natural reserve of Chastreuix-Sancy under administration of the "Parc des Volcans" in 2007. The article 12 of the creation decree specifies that "the sports or touristics activitie are prohibited, except discovery activities of the reserve, pedestrial hiking, horse climbing, aline skiing, nordic skiing, paragliding, hang glidering, hot air balloons, that can be regulated by the prefect according to the orientations defined in the Reserve Management Plan".
In case of pratice of prohibited activity, the offender can get a fine of 4th catégory from 135€ to 750€. Park guardians are sworn to raise minutes. A subsequent fine under denunciation is theoretically still possible.
Warning levels
The general principle is the following :
- permanent and total prohibition : highest warning level (i.e red warning).
This is the highest warning level.
- area prohibition (if the area does not exist as a document), a particular or seasonal activity, = average warning level (i.e. orange warning)
This is the average warning level.
- partial prohibition or proihibition of an actiity close to the principal activity or in the area document if not fully concerned = lower warning level only if the prohibition is not obivous (e.g : national park rules, natual reserve rules). Instead it can be only an information that could appêar or not on c2C
This is the informative warning level.
Impacted documents
Le panneau d'alerte n'apparaît de manière systématique que si l'ensemble du document est couvert par l'interdiction, c'est-à-dire que la pratique est bloquée par l'interdiction.
By Example Philosophy
- L'itinéraire de la Combe de l'If en Chartreuse est impacté en totalité = parcours impossible. Par contre, le document sommet "Charmant Som" n'est impacté que pour les itinéraires de la combe de l'If , les autres sont OK du point de vue de cette interdiction → pas de panneau ou simple information.
- Un site d'escalade qui est interdit à 100% ou que dans certaines de ses voies. Dans le premier cas le panneau d'avertissement apparaîtra dans le WP ET dans chaque iti. Dans l'autre cas, il n'apparaîtra que dans les iti concernés. Dans le WP, la présence et le niveau du panneau dépendra du contexte et de la proportion du document impacté.
Routes
Cas le plus simple, car c'est le document le plus impacté par une interdiction, panneau d'alerte rouge ou orange, en fonction.
Waypoints (summits, cliffs, etc, ...)
Depending on the prohibition characteristics => refer to warning levels.
Area
Il sera mis le niveau d'alerte le plus bas seulement si l'interdiction ne paraît pas tomber sous le sens (ex : règles d'un parc national ou d'une réserve naturelle). Sinon, il ne s'agit que d'une information qui peut apparaître ou non sur C2C.
Outings documents
Prévenance des contributeurs entrant une sortie sur un document dont l'interdiction est signalée
Dans la mesure du possible, le contributeur est prévenu par MP. Lors de la mise à jour de l'interdiction de pratique sur un document itinéraire, il n'est pas nécessaire de prévenir les contributeurs ayant entré une sortie précédemment à l'interdiction.
Suppression de sortie
Tout auteur d'une sortie peut demander la suppression de la sortie au motif de l'interdiction.
Décision
La construction de ces règles et le débat associé se trouve dans cette discussion (accessible aux modérateurs topoguide uniquement).
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